Chapter 198 Is this gun specially used for bayonet fighting? (3k)
After listening to the design party's proposal report, Gao Zhendong fell into deep thought.
In fact, in principle, this rifle and the later "transitional and regular" rifle that performed brilliantly in the self-defense counterattack are more closely related to the SKS and its imitation models, rather than to the AK-47 and its imitation models as some people think.
Especially the most important automatic mode part, as expected, the design of this gun adopts the short-stroke piston gas-operated principle similar to SKS, while AK-47 uses the long-stroke piston gas-operated principle.
However, the locking method of this gun and the gun used in the subsequent self-defense counterattack is the same as that of the AK-47, with the bolt rotating locking, rather than the SKS's offset bolt locking.
It should be said that as far as Gao Zhendong's own understanding of firearms is concerned, from the perspective of the design, there is nothing wrong with the options of automatic, locked, and firing. The biggest problem with this gun is not in this aspect.
After all, during the early trials, due to the good manufacturing process, the accuracy was really good, and there were no major problems with the quality, maintenance, and service of the guns. Although there were some defects, they could not be seen at this time because they had not been fully completed yet.
It is also impossible for Gao Zhendong to use something that others have not yet designed to launch anti-aircraft attacks. That would not be a high-altitude cannon, but an anti-aircraft gun.
But based on the little that Gao Zhendong knows, this thing emphasizes the performance of a "rifle", that is, it is mainly single-shot while taking into account the requirements of continuous firing, being conducive to bayonet fighting, and having good accuracy. It is not something that the designers came up with on a whim.
It’s the user’s requirement!
According to the concept, the positioning of this gun is mainly "rifle combat function", and the AK-47 imitation model positioned as an assault rifle will be replaced by it, or serve as an auxiliary for it, which is very difficult.
It is obvious that this user group cannot be included or truly represented by the few representatives present at the scene.
In this situation, it was difficult to do anything effective at this meeting, but Gao Zhendong still decided to say everything he wanted to say, otherwise he would not be able to get over it in his heart.
More than 200 million guns. If it were a small country, this number would be enough for several countries to fight a war for more than ten years.
This is such a huge waste!
Although the main reason is not the design, the design is also to blame. If we can move closer to the ideal direction at the beginning, optimize the best process, and quickly form a certain scale, perhaps the situation will be much better.
At least after the production problems are solved, we can just look up the drawings and make it, instead of having to design a new one as a transition.
There is a difference between messing around and messing around knowing it is messing around anyway.
Seeing that it was his turn to speak as the meeting progressed, Gao Zhendong organized his thoughts and opened his mouth.
He smiled and said to the designer: "Comrade, why do I feel that your gun is preparing for our soldiers to fight with bayonets? Bayonet fighting is our fine tradition, but it is not our main method of fighting."
The designer was about to explain: "Director Gao, this is the use of..."
Gao Zhendong raised his hand and interrupted him. He wanted to maintain this state of "not knowing the reason", otherwise some things would be difficult to say.
Gao Zhendong smiled and said, "Don't worry, I'm just telling you my thoughts. They may not be mature, but wait until I finish speaking."
The designers had no choice but to stop answering questions and listen to Gao Zhendong. This is the "right to speak", which is sometimes really useful.
Still smiling, Gao Zhendong said, "Let me first talk about my views on the battlefield environment. After all, I have been to the battlefield and killed many enemies with my own hands. I have also commanded my comrades to complete many tasks."
Gao Zhendong rarely pointed out at the beginning that he had been on the battlefield and had rich front-line combat experience.
Now is not the time to be humble. The richer and more majestic his identity and image are, the more likely others are to listen to his words. At least, it will not go in one ear and out the other, but will turn over his words in their heads a few times.
As soon as these words came out, some people at the meeting who didn't know Gao Zhendong's background immediately sat up straight and took him more seriously. Hearing these words, they thought, this is an expert! Isn't he a technical expert? Why does he sound more like a user representative?
The leaders of the Defense Work Committee also became serious because Gao Zhendong's style was a little different from usual. It seemed that Comrade Gao Zhendong wanted to express some strong suggestions.
"From experience, the distance between us and enemy infantry is basically within 400 meters. At a distance farther, we can't see clearly and can't shoot accurately. For ordinary infantry, the effective range and accuracy of more than 400 meters are actually meaningless. Of course, a small number of outstanding people who kill the enemy with cold guns are an exception."
For example, Mr. Zhang was a god who could shoot without missing a target even with an iron sight from the hip. Anyone who had been to the battlefield or had more shooting experience would nod their heads and would not deny this.
"With the development of our country, the progress of society, and the leaps in science and technology, bayonet fighting is no longer our main method of warfare. We cannot and will not abandon this fine tradition, but in order to better kill the enemy, we need more powerful and concentrated firepower."
This sentence is full of accusations, making it difficult to refute it at first glance, because if you refute it casually, you will find that this sentence is full of traps. In this way, Gao Zhendong can finish his words and express his own meaning.
"In combat, we still hope to ensure the range and accuracy while being able to fire more bullets at the enemy in a short period of time. This is especially true in trench warfare, tunnel warfare, and close combat situations."
"You know, on the battlefield, a machine gun can suppress our entire squad, because we can only fire one round at a time. Even if we use the captured 'big eight', it is difficult to compete with the machine gun."
The "Big Eight" is the Citigroup's M1 Garand, a semi-automatic rifle with an 8-round clip.
"At this time, submachine guns are more useful because they are not inferior to machine guns in terms of firing rate. Unfortunately, the range of submachine guns at that time was too short, about 100 meters, and they often couldn't reach. When we were completely unable to suppress the enemy's firepower, we might have to pay a lot of blood for a machine gun on the opposite side."
Everyone present was silenced by Gao Zhendong's immersive description. That war had been over for several years and not many people present had experienced it personally, so when they heard Gao Zhendong's description, they felt admiration and that it made sense.
Gao Zhendong's map of Yan State was not long, and he soon revealed his true intentions: "In my opinion, the weapons in the hands of ordinary infantry should be of moderate power, with effective range and accuracy guaranteed within 400 meters, capable of switching between continuous and single shots, with moderate length and weight, and the design should be inclined towards continuous firing."
At this time, someone raised a question: "Then the firepower beyond 400 meters is not guaranteed?"
Gao Zhendong said: "Beyond 7.62 meters, that should be the range of the company and platoon support firepower. The effectiveness of individual weapons is already very low beyond this range. After all, the performance of a gun is determined to some extent by the bullet. The 39* intermediate power bullet we use has this performance. The ballistic performance cannot be guaranteed beyond this range."
"If we use the existing 7.62*54R full-power bullet, the recoil from continuous firing will be too much for a single soldier to handle, and he won't be able to shoot accurately. The gun is also heavy, which is why the North wants to use the former to replace the latter in individual weapons."
"If the performance is only guaranteed within 400 meters, then the ballistic performance benefits brought by the extra-long barrel are not necessary."
After such a long paragraph was spoken, the person asking the question fell into deep thought. It sounded like it made sense.
Gao Zhendong did not stop talking: "So when we get back to this gun, my first impression is that the gun is too long, which is not conducive to its use in armored vehicles, and it is not conducive to our work of turning to motorization, mechanization, and armoring."
Gao Zhendong did not mention the bayonet fighting, but changed the subject and turned the question to the inconvenience of using the weapon inside the car, so as not to directly conflict with the requirement of "bayonet fighting".
You should know that this gun is similar to the SKS. With the bayonet folded, it is more than 1 meter long, and with the bayonet opened, it is more than 1 meters long.
When the leader of the Defense Work Committee heard this, he said, yes, the gun is in the armored vehicle and it seems that it is difficult to maneuver it.
The user's representative also thought of this matter. It is obvious that the length of the gun in the plan cannot be used in an armored vehicle.
Gao Zhendong added a bit mischievously: "You may not be able to feel what 1 meters feels like. Let me give you an example. This gun with the bayonet opened is longer than the Japanese Type 3 rifle!"
When these words were spoken, some old comrades were disgusted. The Type 38 rifle was indeed a weapon we took from the enemy and used on the enemy. It played an important role in the struggle against the enemy and was even helpful in bayonet fighting.
But the length is really hard to describe in daily use. In fact, the Mosin-Nagant is not short, but the S2 one is still a little shorter than the Type rifle.
"When we had no choice but to fight with bayonets, perhaps length was an advantage, but now the environment has changed. Such a long gun is not so convenient to carry and fight in."
Someone raised an opinion: "Director Gao, do you mean that we won't fight with bayonets?"
Gao Zhendong couldn't just say this: "We have to fight, but we will give higher priority to more effective ways to kill the enemy."
When the leader of the Defense Work Committee heard what Gao Zhendong said, he laughed in his heart and called him "slippery". He knew not to respond casually, but to put it in a different way that would not be criticized.
It is definitely wrong to oppose bayonet fighting, and it is definitely wrong to oppose more effective methods of killing the enemy.
The more the leaders of the Defense Work Committee listened to Gao Zhendong, the more they felt that there might be some problems with the starting point of this gun. Although they could not be sure, Gao Zhendong's words were at least not completely unreasonable and were worth pondering.
(End of this chapter)